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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Jack,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t often get time to read all those emails, but now
that the election is behind me I have a bit more time!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think it is important to realise that members of the
congregation actually can not “nominate” a person for
eldership. Only the session can do that. Members of the
congregation can only suggest names to the session of people they believe are
suitable to serve as elders /deacons, and then the session can chose to
nominate them or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Before formally nominating a person (i.e announcing their name
to the congregation) the person being considered for nomination is visited by
their section elder or the minister to talk about what is involved, and
whether there are any things which the session might not be aware of, which would
preclude the person from serving as an elder/deacon. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sometimes, congregation members suggest names of people who may
think that they are suitable for nomination, but the session may be aware of
things which would make it wrong or unwise, and therefore not pursue the
suggestion. The reason may be one that the session would deem
inappropriate to share with the person who suggested the name. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If the ordinary member of the congregation approaches a person,
wanting to nominate them for elder, many a suitable person would be too modest
and say no. But if the elder or pastor approaches a person and informs
them that the whole session is of the view that they have the necessary gifting
and maturity etc, then the “call” would be much stronger, and not
so easily declined.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think the method that I have outlined above has been widely
used in our churches (certainly in the churches I have served) and has worked
well .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Every blessing on your ministry’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><img width=130 height=87 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.png@01CE25B9.1DC6AC20"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rev Peter Abetz MLA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>(Associate Pastor)</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>67 Froudist Circle<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Southern River 6110<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Home +61 (0)8 9456 2712<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Electorate Office: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+61 (0)8 9256 4900<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mobile: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>0409 076 155<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>E-mail: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>pabetz@crca.org.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Grace Christian Reformed Church<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Current place of worship:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Seveth Day Adventist Church<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Wendling Rd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>North Beach WA 6020<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Worship times: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sundays: 8:30 am &
10.30 am<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Website: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.gracecrc.org.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mins-bounces@crca.org.au
[mailto:mins-bounces@crca.org.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>mins@crca.org.au<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 March 2013 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> mins@crca.org.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mins] Question about Nomination of Office Bearers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Jack,<br>
<br>
It just so happens that we have just gone through the nomination process too,
so this is fresh in our memories! We do what you do, as well as the two
suggested amendments. <br>
<br>
The reasoning behind the first point is that it just seems like good manners
for a nominator to get the nominee’s consent before their names will be
put before Session and discussed (and possibly dissected!). It also potentially
saves time: there seems no point discussing a nominee at length and eventually
accepting their nomination, only to them have them refuse to accept it
themselves when they are informed of it.<br>
<br>
The reasoning behind the second point is that: if the nominee doesn’t
know they’ve been nominated, of course, there’s no point in telling
them they were and then rejected. But if they do know they’ve been
nominated, it is much better that they find out in person from an elder than
merely by the fact that their name isn’t on the voting slip. This also
provides pastoral opportunities, i.e. to explain to someone who might think
they are leadership material why they are not, which might have broader impacts
in the church.<br>
<br>
Anyway, that’s just my two cents’ worth!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Des Smith, CRC Kingston<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 18/03/13 2:08 PM, "<a href="mins@crca.org.au">mins@crca.org.au</a>"
<<a href="mins@crca.org.au">mins@crca.org.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
Hi Everyone,<br>
<br>
In Launceston Session we have always followed what I thought was fairly
standard procedure when it comes to nominating office bearers, that is we call
for nominations from the congregation, we receive some names in reply, we add
some extra names of our own, we consider them carefully and prayerfully, we
come up with a list of candidates and then we announce this to the
congregation. It has recently been suggested that we do a couple of things
differently, namely:<br>
<br>
1) That it should be specified that nominators should always gain permission
from the person they wish to nominate before putting their name forward to
Session.<br>
2) That if someone is nominated and Session decide not to put them up for
election, that Session should go back to the nominator and the nominee and
explain why their nomination was rejected.<br>
<br>
We are wondering if anyone has any experience, thoughts or wisdom for us on
this matter?<br>
<br>
Yours in Christ, Jack Kapinga.<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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