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"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "><b>Gateway Community Church</b></span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164<br>P: 0418 383 055<br>E: <a href="mailto:dgroenenboom@crca.org.au">dgroenenboom</a><a href="mailto:psmit@crca.org.au">@crca.org.au</a> <br>W: <a href="http://www.gatewaycc.com.au/">www.gatewaycc.com.au</a></span></font></span></font></font></div></span></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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</div><br><div><div>On 01/05/2013, at 2:07 PM, <a href="mailto:mins@crca.org.au">mins@crca.org.au</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="white" background="cid:image004.gif@01CE4686.0BC56190" lang="EN-AU" link="#983738" vlink="#703637" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Hmmm!<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span>1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>I’m not sure I appreciate getting a forwarded blog on the CRCA network without any indication as to who sent it. “mins-bounces” tells me exactly nothing. Please have the courage of your convictions to add your name.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span>2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Apparently Carl forgot one “term of endearment” in the following paragraph:<i>“Finally, those who could not be ignored or internalized could be rendered irrelevant through linguistic demonization: they would be decried as 'haters', 'ivory tower academicians', 'ranters' and 'envious.'”</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> He should have added “grumpy” to the list. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: Wingdings; ">J</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">No offence meant to the anonymous forwarder.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Shalom<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">John Westendorp<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-style: none none double; border-bottom-width: 2.25pt; border-bottom-color: windowtext; padding: 0cm 0cm 1pt; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-align: center; border: none; padding: 0cm; "><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(148, 54, 52); "> </span></b></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-align: center; "><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(148, 54, 52); "> </span></b></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-align: center; "><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(148, 54, 52); ">Westy’s Weekly Blog<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-align: center; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 24pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(192, 0, 0); ">Our electronic toys<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(227, 108, 10); ">It was interesting listening to the kids’ responses in a children’s segment during morning worship last Sunday. I had asked them what kind of activities they had done the day before. The first four reactions were perhaps telling. “I played on my IPod.” “I watched television.” “I played computer games.” “I watched a movie.”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; text-align: center; "><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "><a href="http://www.crca.org.au/Blogs/John_Westendorp/Our_electronic_toys" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">Read more…!</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mins-bounces@crca.org.au" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; ">mins-bounces@crca.org.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:mins-<a href="mailto:bounces@crca.org.au" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; ">bounces@crca.org.au</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:mins@crca.org.au" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; ">mins@crca.org.au</a><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 1 May 2013 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mins@crca.org.au" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; ">mins@crca.org.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Mins] Grumpy Carl strikes again<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><h1 style="margin: 24pt 0cm 0.0001pt; page-break-after: avoid; font-size: 16pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 24pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a href="http://www.reformation21.org/articles/what-if-life-was-complex.php" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; ">What if Life Was Complex?</a><o:p></o:p></span></h1><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Article by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="articleauthor"><a href="http://72.47.212.95/carl-trueman/" style="color: rgb(112, 54, 55); text-decoration: underline; ">Carl Trueman</a></span> April 2013<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><span><image005.jpg></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">This month, I thought I would use this column to indulge in a little thought experiment. What, I wonder, if the conservative evangelical church world came to be dominated by a symbiotic network of high profile and charismatic leaders (think more Weber than Wimber), media organisations, and big conferences? What if leadership, doctrine, and policy were no longer rooted in the primacy of biblical polity and the local church? What if, in other words, all of this became a function of an Evangelical Industrial Complex?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: windowtext; "> </span></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Mins mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mins@crca.org.au">Mins@crca.org.au</a><br>To manage subscription settings - http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au</div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>