From mins at crca.org.au  Fri Mar  1 23:17:24 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:17:24 +1100
Subject: [Mins] discussion mailing list address
In-Reply-To: <mailman.77.1362137275.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.21.1361766056.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.77.1362137275.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.82.1362179852.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi bros,
Here is a reply from our webmaster to my enquiry some time ago -

> Hi Terry
> 
> The current crca website will be closed in the near future, and there will be new methods of subscribing.  
> 
> Yes, discussion has been removed.  The bulletins mail list is now intended for any general CRCA matters including discussions.  Saying that, it is intended to have an area on the new website for discussions.
> 
> The SIC made the decision, based on recommendations I put forward.  It was discovered the numerous mail lists shared approximately a 95% common list of subscribers. These lists were rarely used, for example the discussion list received approximately one posting per month and was contributed to by the same 4 or 5 people.  The time required to manage and moderate each list just isn't justified for the minimal use.  The mailman software for these mail lists is quite old and primitive in terms of security so attracts a lot of spam.  It is my hope to completely abolish the use of this software and integrate much more secure and engaging forms of communication, which gives our subscribers much greater choice of what they wish to interact with.
> 
> Cheers
> Phil 

On 25/02/2013, at 4:09 PM, mins at crca.org.au wrote:

> Geoff,
> 
> I can't remember who said it, for my forgetory is working better these days, but someone at Classis meeting last Saturday said it was closed down.  Perhaps Dave may know more about it.  
> 
> 
> Zuidy.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM, <mins at crca.org.au> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> Have been trying to mail something on the ?Discussion? mailing list but bounces all the time.
> 
>  
> 
> Tried checking the address on CRCA website but mailing list page fails to come up.
> 
>  
> 
> The address I have is:  discussion at crca.or.au
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
>  
> 
> Blessings
> 
> Geoff
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mins mailing list
> Mins at crca.org.au
> http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> John & Trudy Zuidema
> 19 Heather St,
> Wheeler Heights.
> NSW, 2097
> Australia
> (http://jtzuidy.blogspot.com.au)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mins mailing list
> Mins at crca.org.au
> http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au

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From mins at crca.org.au  Sat Mar  2 12:06:42 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 20:06:42 +0800
Subject: [Mins] Fwd: NT commentary sale! The Bible Speaks Today
References: <LYRIS-6630193-4379814-2013.03.02-03.10.06--djgroenenboom#gmail.com@lrsmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.94.1362226014.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Just in case you're interested in the Logos release...

Grace and peace,

Dave Groenenboom
Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom at crca.org.au 
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au



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From mins at crca.org.au  Fri Mar  1 23:02:26 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:02:26 +1100
Subject: [Mins] CPT fund raising
Message-ID: <mailman.97.1362233523.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

In response to the email to pastors and church councils from the Church
Planting Taskforce - 

 

It is good to hear about those who are enthusiastic for their particular
Synodical tasks, however we can't help but wonder if the email sent to the
churches seeking additional funding was a very wise effort, and in fact an
inappropriate effort of any Synodical committee whether addressed to all
churches or a subset of the denomination. 

 

We note the following:

 

1.       SYNOD 1988 - Art 74.8.   That no deputy or committee shall approach
the churches for any form of funding outside those specifically approved by
Synod or the SIC.

2.       In Victoria at least, we are aware that there are privacy laws
concerning what is being asked of the Sessions, and unless individuals
approve of their personal details being passed on this cannot happen

3.       We ourselves would be loath to make judgements which assess the
dollar value of our members.

4.       We really need to learn how to live within the means God provides
us

 

In Christ 

 

Box Hill Session

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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar  5 06:29:21 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:29:21 +1100
Subject: [Mins] CPT fund raising
In-Reply-To: <mailman.97.1362233523.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.97.1362233523.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.125.1362464964.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi all

Just to clarify something which I've read a couple of times in recent
emails.  It was stated:

"That no deputy or committee shall approach the churches for any form of
funding outside those specifically approved by Synod or the SIC." *SYNOD
1988 - Art 74.8.*

This was raised by the Business & Finance Committee and addressed at Synod
2012, specifically in respect to CPT's fund raising request for this
triennium. Refer to Synod 2012 Minutes, *Art 50.6.3*:

"Synod decided ... To make provision for ongoing funding of gospel
out-reach through church planting work in the next triennium by ....
granting CPT permission to raise funds for church planting from among
members of our churches."


regards

Troy Vander Noord
Synodical Treasurer
Christian Reformed Churches of Australia


PO Box 312
DOONSIDE NSW 2767

P - 02 9920 1735
F - 02 9920 0776
M - 0424 177 959

This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use,
disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient.


On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:02 AM, <mins at crca.org.au> wrote:

> In response to the email to pastors and church councils from the Church
> Planting Taskforce - ****
>
> ** **
>
> It is good to hear about those who are enthusiastic for their particular
> Synodical tasks, however we can?t help but wonder if the email sent to the
> churches seeking additional funding was a very wise effort, and in fact an
> inappropriate effort of any Synodical committee whether addressed to all
> churches or a subset of the denomination. ****
>
> ** **
>
> We note the following:****
>
> ** **
>
> **1.       **SYNOD 1988 - Art 74.8.   That no deputy or committee shall
> approach the churches for any form of funding outside those specifically
> approved by Synod or the SIC.****
>
> **2.       **In Victoria at least, we are aware that there are privacy
> laws concerning what is being asked of the Sessions, and unless individuals
> approve of their personal details being passed on this cannot happen****
>
> **3.       **We ourselves would be loath to make judgements which assess
> the dollar value of our members.****
>
> **4.       **We really need to learn how to live within the means God
> provides us****
>
> ** **
>
> In Christ ****
>
> ** **
>
> Box Hill Session****
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mins mailing list
> Mins at crca.org.au
> http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au
>
>
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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar  5 07:22:10 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:22:10 +0800
Subject: [Mins] CPT fund raising
In-Reply-To: <mailman.125.1362464964.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.97.1362233523.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.125.1362464964.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.126.1362468139.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Thanks Troy.

Grace and peace,

Dave Groenenboom
Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom at crca.org.au 
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au



On 05/03/2013, at 2:29 PM, mins at crca.org.au wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Just to clarify something which I've read a couple of times in recent emails.  It was stated:
> 
> "That no deputy or committee shall approach the churches for any form of funding outside those specifically approved by Synod or the SIC." SYNOD 1988 - Art 74.8.
> 
> This was raised by the Business & Finance Committee and addressed at Synod 2012, specifically in respect to CPT's fund raising request for this triennium. Refer to Synod 2012 Minutes, Art 50.6.3:
> 
> "Synod decided ... To make provision for ongoing funding of gospel out-reach through church planting work in the next triennium by .... granting CPT permission to raise funds for church planting from among members of our churches."
> 
> regards
> 
> Troy Vander Noord
> Synodical Treasurer
> Christian Reformed Churches of Australia
>  
>  
> PO Box 312
> DOONSIDE NSW 2767
>  
> P - 02 9920 1735
> F - 02 9920 0776
> M - 0424 177 959
>  
> This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:02 AM, <mins at crca.org.au> wrote:
> In response to the email to pastors and church councils from the Church Planting Taskforce -
> 
>  
> 
> It is good to hear about those who are enthusiastic for their particular Synodical tasks, however we can?t help but wonder if the email sent to the churches seeking additional funding was a very wise effort, and in fact an inappropriate effort of any Synodical committee whether addressed to all churches or a subset of the denomination.
> 
>  
> 
> We note the following:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.       SYNOD 1988 - Art 74.8.   That no deputy or committee shall approach the churches for any form of funding outside those specifically approved by Synod or the SIC.
> 
> 2.       In Victoria at least, we are aware that there are privacy laws concerning what is being asked of the Sessions, and unless individuals approve of their personal details being passed on this cannot happen
> 
> 3.       We ourselves would be loath to make judgements which assess the dollar value of our members.
> 
> 4.       We really need to learn how to live within the means God provides us
> 
>  
> 
> In Christ
> 
>  
> 
> Box Hill Session
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mins mailing list
> Mins at crca.org.au
> http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mins mailing list
> Mins at crca.org.au
> http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au

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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar  5 22:17:12 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:17:12 +1100
Subject: [Mins] news from Syria
Message-ID: <mailman.137.1362521841.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi brothers,
Attached is a brief message from Pastor Serop of the Presbyterian Church in Aleppo, Syria. I've known him for about 5yrs ... his congregation has been supported by MERF, particularly because this congregation has cared for Iraqi refugees for years.
Please use this information to assist your prayers about brothers and sisters in Syria,
in Christ,
Terry

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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar  6 10:31:11 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:31:11 +0800
Subject: [Mins] Fwd: Letter from the SIC re Financial Appeal
References: <CAGHBYk9m5jY=uSDBkdZOJuhU2Z2sH5DK5AXKi8sj-RQRrHXcWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.146.1362565902.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear fellow Pastors,

Attached is a letter form the SIC following up on the Financial Appeal conducted throughout the CRCA towards the end of last year. This correspondence outlines the outcome of the Appeal, and is enclosed for your information.

Some of you will already have received this letter directly from John Bylsma. We have sent it out via the [mins] list as well, just in case there were email addresses on John's post that may not have been up to date.

Thanks for being understanding,

Grace and peace,

Dave Groenenboom
Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom at crca.org.au 
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au



Begin forwarded message:

> From: John Bylsma <bylsmajw at gmail.com>
> Subject: Letter from the SIC re Financial Appeal
> ...
> 
> Dear Brothers,
> 
> Please find attached a letter from the SIC informing the churches of the outcome of the CRCA Financial Crisis Appeal.
> 
> John Bylsma
> Clerk, SIC

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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 11 02:25:52 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:25:52 +0800
Subject: [Mins] New Pope Confirmed!
Message-ID: <mailman.181.1362968765.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

?coud not resist this...





Dave Groenenboom
Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom at crca.org.au 
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au



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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 11 03:01:33 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:01:33 +0800
Subject: [Mins] New Pope Confirmed!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.181.1362968765.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.181.1362968765.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.184.1362970986.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Naughty, naughty, naughty.  J

 

Reinier

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Monday, 11 March 2013 10:26 AM
To: CRCA Ministers
Subject: [Mins] New Pope Confirmed!

 

.coud not resist this...

 

522477_141726965996637_1110578019_n.jpg







Dave Groenenboom

Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom <mailto:dgroenenboom at crca.org.au> @crca.org.au
<mailto:psmit at crca.org.au>  
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au <http://www.gatewaycc.com.au/> 




 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar 12 06:59:33 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:59:33 +1000
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
Message-ID: <mailman.204.1363071588.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear colleagues in ministry,

 

Half of the hotel rooms have been already booked for the upcoming Recharge
CRCA Ministry Conference - 06-09 May 2013.   Have you registered yet?
There is still time to take advantage of the early bird price which will be
in effect for one more month, until 15 April.   Hotel rooms will be
available on a first come first serve basis.   Registration forms and
conference details are attached.   Early bird price is $270 pp for twin
share or $220 pp four share. Transportation is provided from Sydney Domestic
Airport.  A deposit will secure your rooms.  Send in all rego forms to
<mailto:recharge2013 at crca.org.au> recharge2013 at crca.org.au or post it to the
address on the rego forms.

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack De Vries

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:   <mailto:mtc at crca.org.au> mtc at crca.org.au

 <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> www.ministryformation.com.au

 


_______________________________________________
Mins mailing list
Mins at crca.org.au
http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au

 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar 12 07:26:07 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:26:07 +1000
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
Message-ID: <mailman.207.1363073175.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

To remove all confusion from the above info sheet about Recharge 2013 -- the
schedule has now been corrected:   the dates are all in May ... Monday 06 -
Thursday 09.

 

Thanks Pieter for correcting this detail.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack

 

Here is the original email sent earlier today:

 

Half of the hotel rooms have been already booked for the upcoming Recharge
CRCA Ministry Conference - 06-09 May 2013.   Have you registered yet?
There is still time to take advantage of the early bird price which will be
in effect for one more month, until 15 April.   Hotel rooms will be
available on a first come first serve basis.   Registration forms and
conference details are attached.   Early bird price is $270 pp for twin
share or $220 pp four share. Transportation is provided from Sydney Domestic
Airport.  A deposit will secure your rooms.  Send in all rego forms to
<mailto:recharge2013 at crca.org.au> recharge2013 at crca.org.au or post it to the
address on the rego forms.

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack De Vries

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:   <mailto:mtc at crca.org.au> mtc at crca.org.au

 <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> www.ministryformation.com.au

 


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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 00:36:37 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:36:37 +1000
Subject: [Mins] State Email Aliases
Message-ID: <mailman.215.1363135004.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi all

Just wanted to let you know, if you have an email you'd like to send to just a specific state, or even a classis, there are email aliases setup for these regions.

Below are the state email addresses.  If you would like the classis email addresses, please let me know.


queensland at crca.org.au
new_south_wales at crca.org.au
victoria at crca.org.au
south_australia at crca.org.au
western_australia at crca.org.au


Kind Regards
Phil Warburton

Tube Media
e: phil at tubemedia.com.au
p: 1800 918 928
http://www.tubemedia.com.au
http://twitter.com/TubeMedia





From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 00:47:01 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:47:01 +1000
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] State Email Aliases
In-Reply-To: <000301ce1f83$da5feea0$8f1fcbe0$@bigpond.net.au>
References: <D2EBBDF2-D00E-4FEC-897A-440B9849FEAC@tubemedia.com.au>
	<000301ce1f83$da5feea0$8f1fcbe0$@bigpond.net.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.216.1363135628.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi Bob

Yes it does!  Sorry to all my Tasmanian friends, I knew there was one more.

tasmania at crca.org.au


Tube Media
e: phil at tubemedia.com.au
p: 1800 918 928
http://www.tubemedia.com.au
http://twitter.com/TubeMedia


On 13/03/2013, at 10:44 AM, Bob Murray <rrm47 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Thanks Phil ...... does Tassie get a mention ??? although its not too hard
> to work it out eh?
> Blessings
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bulletins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:bulletins-bounces at crca.org.au]
> On Behalf Of Phil Warburton
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:37 AM
> To: <bulletins at crca.org.au>; mins at crca.org.au
> Subject: [Bulletins] State Email Aliases
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Just wanted to let you know, if you have an email you'd like to send to just
> a specific state, or even a classis, there are email aliases setup for these
> regions.
> 
> Below are the state email addresses.  If you would like the classis email
> addresses, please let me know.
> 
> 
> queensland at crca.org.au
> new_south_wales at crca.org.au
> victoria at crca.org.au
> south_australia at crca.org.au
> western_australia at crca.org.au
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> Phil Warburton
> 
> Tube Media
> e: phil at tubemedia.com.au
> p: 1800 918 928
> http://www.tubemedia.com.au
> http://twitter.com/TubeMedia
> 
> 
> 
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> 




From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 02:00:18 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:00:18 +1000
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] subscription settings
Message-ID: <mailman.219.1363140094.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi all

Just some further info to address with the mail lists.  

Its come to my attention that for some Outlook users, the footer of the message which contains the link to your Subscription settings, is delivered as an attachment in Outlook.
So if you would like to update your subscription settings and are using Outlook, please check for an attachment which will provide a link to the relevant page.

Kind Regards
Phil Warburton


Tube Media
e: phil at tubemedia.com.au
p: 1800 918 928
http://www.tubemedia.com.au
http://twitter.com/TubeMedia



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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 02:03:36 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:03:36 +1100
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] Small Group series
Message-ID: <mailman.226.1363140487.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear valued customer,

 

We are writing to inform you (or remind you!) of the Small Group series
available from CRCA Resources <http://www.resources.crca.org.au/> : Discover
Life, In the Works, Word Alive and Discover your Bible.

 

Please find attached the brochure with further information.

 

You can find prices and place orders immediately on our website
<http://www.resources.crca.org.au/c/265303/1/kid-connection.html> . 

 

 

Regards,

Katrina Ford

 

CRCA Resources

2 Sydney Avenue

Mount Evelyn VIC 3796

Australia

P: (03) 9736 2412

E: resources at crca.org.au

W: www.resources.crca.org.au <http://www.resources.crca.org.au/> 

Office hours:

Mon/Wed/Fri, 9am-5pm

 

Unsubscribe: if you no longer want to receive messages from us, simply reply
to this email with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line

 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 06:19:07 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:19:07 +1100
Subject: [Mins] BFC Letter
Message-ID: <mailman.229.1363155569.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>



To all ministers and clerks

 

Please find attached a letter from the Business and Finance Committee

 

Christian greetings

 

Maria Jobse

 

Synodical Administrator

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

3 Renwick Close  

Blaxland  NSW 2774

AUSTRALIA

p: +61 (0)2 4739 6622

e:  <mailto:admin at crca.org.au> admin at crca.org.au

 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 13:52:21 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:52:21 +0800
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
In-Reply-To: <mailman.207.1363073175.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.207.1363073175.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.232.1363182750.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Thanks Jack

I will be attending.

I'll send through payment & registration forms in about a week's time.

Blessings

Joe

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013 3:26 PM
To: mins at crca.org.au
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away

 

To remove all confusion from the above info sheet about Recharge 2013 -- the
schedule has now been corrected:   the dates are all in May ... Monday 06 -
Thursday 09.

 

Thanks Pieter for correcting this detail.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack

 

Here is the original email sent earlier today:

 

Half of the hotel rooms have been already booked for the upcoming Recharge
CRCA Ministry Conference - 06-09 May 2013.   Have you registered yet?
There is still time to take advantage of the early bird price which will be
in effect for one more month, until 15 April.   Hotel rooms will be
available on a first come first serve basis.   Registration forms and
conference details are attached.   Early bird price is $270 pp for twin
share or $220 pp four share. Transportation is provided from Sydney Domestic
Airport.  A deposit will secure your rooms.  Send in all rego forms to
<mailto:recharge2013 at crca.org.au> recharge2013 at crca.org.au or post it to the
address on the rego forms.

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack De Vries

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:   <mailto:mtc at crca.org.au> mtc at crca.org.au

 <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> www.ministryformation.com.au

 


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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 13 14:01:25 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:01:25 +0800
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
In-Reply-To: <mailman.232.1363182750.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.207.1363073175.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.232.1363182750.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.235.1363183300.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Brothers - sorry for sending my reply through to everyone. I mistook the
reply as going to Jack's personal email address.

Joe

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2013 9:52 PM
To: mins at crca.org.au
Subject: Re: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away

 

Thanks Jack

I will be attending.

I'll send through payment & registration forms in about a week's time.

Blessings

Joe

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013 3:26 PM
To: mins at crca.org.au
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away

 

To remove all confusion from the above info sheet about Recharge 2013 -- the
schedule has now been corrected:   the dates are all in May ... Monday 06 -
Thursday 09.

 

Thanks Pieter for correcting this detail.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack

 

Here is the original email sent earlier today:

 

Half of the hotel rooms have been already booked for the upcoming Recharge
CRCA Ministry Conference - 06-09 May 2013.   Have you registered yet?
There is still time to take advantage of the early bird price which will be
in effect for one more month, until 15 April.   Hotel rooms will be
available on a first come first serve basis.   Registration forms and
conference details are attached.   Early bird price is $270 pp for twin
share or $220 pp four share. Transportation is provided from Sydney Domestic
Airport.  A deposit will secure your rooms.  Send in all rego forms to
<mailto:recharge2013 at crca.org.au> recharge2013 at crca.org.au or post it to the
address on the rego forms.

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack De Vries

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:   <mailto:mtc at crca.org.au> mtc at crca.org.au

 <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> www.ministryformation.com.au

 


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From mins at crca.org.au  Fri Mar 15 11:59:05 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:59:05 +1100
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
In-Reply-To: <mailman.204.1363071588.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.204.1363071588.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.254.1363348746.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear Jack,

 

Please reserve one motel room for Lindy and myself. Rego form to follow.

 

Blessings,

 

Peter Gadsby

Canberra

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013 6:00 PM
To: mins at crca.org.au
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away

 

Dear colleagues in ministry,

 

Half of the hotel rooms have been already booked for the upcoming Recharge
CRCA Ministry Conference - 06-09 May 2013.   Have you registered yet?
There is still time to take advantage of the early bird price which will be
in effect for one more month, until 15 April.   Hotel rooms will be
available on a first come first serve basis.   Registration forms and
conference details are attached.   Early bird price is $270 pp for twin
share or $220 pp four share. Transportation is provided from Sydney Domestic
Airport.  A deposit will secure your rooms.  Send in all rego forms to
<mailto:recharge2013 at crca.org.au> recharge2013 at crca.org.au or post it to the
address on the rego forms.

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack De Vries

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:   <mailto:mtc at crca.org.au> mtc at crca.org.au

 <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> www.ministryformation.com.au

 


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From mins at crca.org.au  Fri Mar 15 12:01:17 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:17 +0000
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
In-Reply-To: <mailman.254.1363348746.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.204.1363071588.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.254.1363348746.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.257.1363348881.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear Peter, consider yourselves booked for a hotel room.  Have a blessed weekend.  Kind regards, Jack
Sent via BlackBerry? from Telstra

-----Original Message-----
From: mins at crca.org.au
Sender: mins-bounces at crca.org.au
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:59:05 
To: <mins at crca.org.au>
Reply-To: mins at crca.org.au
Subject: Re: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away

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From mins at crca.org.au  Sat Mar 16 07:03:09 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 18:03:09 +1100
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
In-Reply-To: <mailman.257.1363348881.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.204.1363071588.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.254.1363348746.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.257.1363348881.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.267.1363417392.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear Jack,

I have sent the Rego form and the payment already had been transferred,
please book a hotel room for me and my wife (Inge)  Thank you

Regards,

Robby Moningka

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:01 PM, <mins at crca.org.au> wrote:

> Dear Peter, consider yourselves booked for a hotel room.  Have a blessed
> weekend.  Kind regards, Jack
> Sent via BlackBerry? from Telstra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mins at crca.org.au
> Sender: mins-bounces at crca.org.au
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:59:05
> To: <mins at crca.org.au>
> Reply-To: mins at crca.org.au
> Subject: Re: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- less than two months away
>
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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 03:08:12 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:08:12 +1100
Subject: [Mins] Question about Nomination of Office Bearers
Message-ID: <mailman.282.1363576477.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>


 
Hi Everyone,
 
In Launceston Session we have always followed what I thought was fairly standard procedure when it comes to nominating office bearers, that is we call for nominations from the congregation, we receive some names in reply, we add some extra names of our own, we consider them carefully and prayerfully, we come up with a list of candidates and then we announce this to the congregation. It has recently been suggested that we do a couple of things differently, namely:
 
1) That it should be specified that nominators should always gain permission from the person they wish to nominate before putting their name forward to Session.
2) That if someone is nominated and Session decide not to put them up for election, that Session should go back to the nominator and the nominee and explain why their nomination was rejected.
 
We are wondering if anyone has any experience, thoughts or wisdom for us on this matter?
 
Yours in Christ, Jack Kapinga. 		 	   		  
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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 03:56:50 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:56:50 +0800
Subject: [Mins] =?windows-1252?q?Advance_Together_=28WA=29_-_just_wanted_t?=
 =?windows-1252?q?o_share_this=85?=
Message-ID: <mailman.286.1363579021.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hey everyone,

Having just attended the Advance Together training in WA a few days ago (Sat 16th), I though I would let you know how it went...

We all know that training events can have varied outcomes: what works for one does not always work for another. While Advance Together has come about following feedback from the CRCA congregations, we may still be wondering what to expect, and whether to attend.

Here in Perth, Advance Together saw about 80 people attend. They came from all walks, represented all types of ministries and age groups: Small Group leaders, youth leaders, children's ministry people, Pastors, pastoral carers, and others who just want to see the church do good ministry.

Murray Capill (Principal, RTC Geelong) started the day with a powerful sermon, encouraging and challenging us to a scriptural understanding of discipleship. It's fair to say that most were challenged by the message, and they left with a deeper appreciation for Matthew 18 and what it says about following Jesus.

There were also workshop/electives on Small Group ministry, Pastoral Care, Mission and Leadership. 
One woman from Gateway who is just starting a new children's ministry. She attended the Leadership elective and found it terrific. 
I attended the Pastoral Care elective, and was impressed with the desire of those in the group to really do pastoral care well, and how the group grappled with the challenges of growing healthy pastoral support systems. 
A young woman who attended the Small Group workshop said the workshop looked at Scriptural priorities for small group ministry, and that she was really encouraged through the discussion. 
A couple attending the Mission elective were challenged to think about how they could change the way they talk with others, and look for better opportunities to share the message about Jesus. 
An older man, whose congregation did not have a strong small group ministry found the discussion particularly helpful.

Over the lunch break, there was a noticeable buzz of conversation. The sense of being a collaborative community seeking to grow into good ministry was palpable.

After lunch, people gathered into congregation specific groups and processed what the morning sessions. The Gateway group felt very positive about the day, with all workshops and all speakers being roundly appreciated. Our people left feeling better equipped for  ministry. Some had connected with others involved in similar ministries in other congregations. Best of all, we had shared group discussion of the needs of our church and had identified a few things we could start doing immediately. We prayed for our church, asking God to deepen our dependence on him as we sought to develop good ministry.

I am not normally someone who loves giving away my Saturday. Life is busy enough. But Advance Together was a great day. Just to see Gateway's ministry people encouraged and feeling more enabled in their task did me good. 

At another level, it was great how RTC, the Ministry Development Coach, the Youth Worker and Children's Worker, along with a local WA-CRCA speaker, had collaborated to deliver some excellent training.

Can I encourage you to get along to your own local Advance Together day? You can find all the details by clicking this link.

Thanks for listening.

Grace and peace,

Dave Groenenboom
Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom at crca.org.au 
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au



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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 04:00:16 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:00:16 +1100
Subject: [Mins] Question about Nomination of Office Bearers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.282.1363576477.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.282.1363576477.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.287.1363579218.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi Jack,

Greetings.

It seems to me that over recent years (perhaps the last 10-20 years) there
has been a shift in thinking on these matters.

I guess the "ideal" would be for the nominator to receive permission from
the one being nominated before forwarding their names to Session.  This
would prevent delays in the election process for if there were no
objections by session to his nomination and he was duly elected by the
congregation he would probably accept his election to office.

The draw back is that over recent years for various reasons more and more
people are unwilling to stand for the offices in the church.  Some have
possible legitimate reasons, (i.e. involved in other ministry work already
- School Boards, Rotary clubs) whilst others see the whole call to office
and serving in the Session far to onerous on their time and their families
time and hence refuse to be nominated.

The difficulty with nominating someone only when you have received their
permission seems to me to leave out the 'call' that the Lord of the church
may send to someone to serve.  It seems to be 'easier' to say 'no' to one
individual's approach to be nominated, where as the 'call' to serve in
office would be far more 'weighty' if a whole congregation made that call
by a vote.

Regarding explaining to a nominator why their nominations were not put
forward to the congregation is fraught with danger.  It may perhaps appease
a nominator, but there may be reasons only known to the Session why a
nomination has not been put forward and those reasons may of such a
pastoral nature that it is unwise to divulge reasons to the nominator, more
over it may be a confidential matter.

So I would suggest, that to give reasons to a nominator for someone's
failure to be put forward to the congregation doesn't need an explanation.
 People just need to trust the office bearers' judgment on these matters.


Perhaps one other thought.

The difficulty with our system is that a leadership team (Session) may only
wish to have certain 'types' to be put forward so as to maintain a current
direction or emphasis and to have someone come on board whom they know may
be a descending voice could be problematic and slow down whatever 'vision'
or 'five year plan the Session has adopted.  I guess people could always
vote 'no'.

Anyhow, they are a few of my initial thoughts.


John Z.

On Monday, March 18, 2013, wrote:

>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> In Launceston Session we have always followed what I thought was fairly
> standard procedure when it comes to nominating office bearers, that is we
> call for nominations from the congregation, we receive some names in reply,
> we add some extra names of our own, we consider them carefully and
> prayerfully, we come up with a list of candidates and then we announce this
> to the congregation. It has recently been suggested that we do a couple of
> things differently, namely:
>
> 1) That it should be specified that nominators should always gain
> permission from the person they wish to nominate before putting their name
> forward to Session.
> 2) That if someone is nominated and Session decide not to put them up for
> election, that Session should go back to the nominator and the nominee and
> explain why their nomination was rejected.
>
> We are wondering if anyone has any experience, thoughts or wisdom for us
> on this matter?
>
> Yours in Christ, Jack Kapinga.
>


-- 
John & Trudy Zuidema
19 Heather St,
Wheeler Heights.
NSW, 2097
Australia
(http://jtzuidy.blogspot.com.au)
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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 03:36:13 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:36:13 +1100
Subject: [Mins] Question about Nomination of Office Bearers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.282.1363576477.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.290.1363579443.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi Jack,

It just so happens that we have just gone through the nomination process
too, so this is fresh in our memories! We do what you do, as well as the two
suggested amendments.

The reasoning behind the first point is that it just seems like good manners
for a nominator to get the nominee?s consent before their names will be put
before Session and discussed (and possibly dissected!). It also potentially
saves time: there seems no point discussing a nominee at length and
eventually accepting their nomination, only to them have them refuse to
accept it themselves when they are informed of it.

The reasoning behind the second point is that: if the nominee doesn?t know
they?ve been nominated, of course, there?s no point in telling them they
were and then rejected. But if they do know they?ve been nominated, it is
much better that they find out in person from an elder than merely by the
fact that their name isn?t on the voting slip. This also provides pastoral
opportunities, i.e. to explain to someone who might think they are
leadership material why they are not, which might have broader impacts in
the church.

Anyway, that?s just my two cents? worth!

Cheers,

Des Smith, CRC Kingston
 


On 18/03/13 2:08 PM, "mins at crca.org.au" <mins at crca.org.au> wrote:

>  
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> In Launceston Session we have always followed what I thought was fairly
> standard procedure when it comes to nominating office bearers, that is we call
> for nominations from the congregation, we receive some names in reply, we add
> some extra names of our own, we consider them carefully and prayerfully, we
> come up with a list of candidates and then we announce this to the
> congregation. It has recently been suggested that we do a couple of things
> differently, namely:
>  
> 1) That it should be specified that nominators should always gain permission
> from the person they wish to nominate before putting their name forward to
> Session.
> 2) That if someone is nominated and Session decide not to put them up for
> election, that Session should go back to the nominator and the nominee and
> explain why their nomination was rejected.
>  
> We are wondering if anyone has any experience, thoughts or wisdom for us on
> this matter?
>  
> Yours in Christ, Jack Kapinga.
>        
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Mins at crca.org.au
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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 04:20:24 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:20:24 +1100
Subject: [Mins] FW: Myanmar Ministry Update
In-Reply-To: <CAFW-q-R2ZbLmUmB5nbRh1fev7YxHghiEq012Q4=kHiK7zias+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFW-q-R2ZbLmUmB5nbRh1fev7YxHghiEq012Q4=kHiK7zias+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.291.1363580478.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi all

 

Many of you met Rev Chan at our Synod last year.

 

Here is a ministry update from him

 

 

Christian greetings

 

Maria Jobse

 

Synodical Administrator

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

3 Renwick Close  

Blaxland  NSW 2774

AUSTRALIA

p: +61 (0)2 4739 6622

e:  <mailto:admin at crca.org.au> admin at crca.org.au

 

Dear brothers and sisters in the Lord,

Greetings to you in the name of our Lord. I am sending Myanmar Ministry
Update for your continual prayer and support for the LORD'S work in Myanmar.

Please see the attached file.

Thanks,

In Him,

Chan

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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 21:36:19 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:36:19 +0800
Subject: [Mins] Advance Together (WA) - just wanted to share this.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.286.1363579021.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.286.1363579021.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.302.1363642595.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

thanks Dave, your summary was very encouraging

 

Peter K

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 11:57 AM
To: CRCA Ministers
Subject: [Mins] Advance Together (WA) - just wanted to share this.

 

Hey everyone,

 

Having just attended the Advance Together training in WA a few days ago (Sat
16th), I though I would let you know how it went...

 

We all know that training events can have varied outcomes: what works for
one does not always work for another. While Advance Together has come about
following feedback from the CRCA congregations, we may still be wondering
what to expect, and whether to attend.

 

Here in Perth, Advance Together saw about 80 people attend. They came from
all walks, represented all types of ministries and age groups: Small Group
leaders, youth leaders, children's ministry people, Pastors, pastoral
carers, and others who just want to see the church do good ministry.

 

Murray Capill (Principal, RTC Geelong) started the day with a powerful
sermon, encouraging and challenging us to a scriptural understanding of
discipleship. It's fair to say that most were challenged by the message, and
they left with a deeper appreciation for Matthew 18 and what it says about
following Jesus.

 

There were also workshop/electives on Small Group ministry, Pastoral Care,
Mission and Leadership. 

*	One woman from Gateway who is just starting a new children's
ministry. She attended the Leadership elective and found it terrific. 
*	I attended the Pastoral Care elective, and was impressed with the
desire of those in the group to really do pastoral care well, and how the
group grappled with the challenges of growing healthy pastoral support
systems. 
*	A young woman who attended the Small Group workshop said the
workshop looked at Scriptural priorities for small group ministry, and that
she was really encouraged through the discussion. 
*	A couple attending the Mission elective were challenged to think
about how they could change the way they talk with others, and look for
better opportunities to share the message about Jesus. 
*	An older man, whose congregation did not have a strong small group
ministry found the discussion particularly helpful.

 

Over the lunch break, there was a noticeable buzz of conversation. The sense
of being a collaborative community seeking to grow into good ministry was
palpable.

 

After lunch, people gathered into congregation specific groups and processed
what the morning sessions. The Gateway group felt very positive about the
day, with all workshops and all speakers being roundly appreciated. Our
people left feeling better equipped for  ministry. Some had connected with
others involved in similar ministries in other congregations. Best of all,
we had shared group discussion of the needs of our church and had identified
a few things we could start doing immediately. We prayed for our church,
asking God to deepen our dependence on him as we sought to develop good
ministry.

 

I am not normally someone who loves giving away my Saturday. Life is busy
enough. But Advance Together was a great day. Just to see Gateway's ministry
people encouraged and feeling more enabled in their task did me good. 

 

At another level, it was great how RTC, the Ministry Development Coach, the
Youth Worker and Children's Worker, along with a local WA-CRCA speaker, had
collaborated to deliver some excellent training.

 

Can I encourage you to get along to your own local Advance Together day? You
can find all the details by clicking this link
<http://emarketing.tubemedia.com.au/t/ViewEmailArchive/y/FC7079BB984DD8CE/C6
7FD2F38AC4859C/> .

 

Thanks for listening.


Grace and peace,




Dave Groenenboom

Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom <mailto:dgroenenboom at crca.org.au> @crca.org.au
<mailto:psmit at crca.org.au>  
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au <http://www.gatewaycc.com.au/> 




 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 18 23:58:06 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:58:06 +0800
Subject: [Mins] =?windows-1252?q?=5BBulletins=5D_Advance_Together_=28WA=29?=
 =?windows-1252?q?_-_just_wanted_to_share_this=85?=
Message-ID: <mailman.305.1363652055.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hey everyone,

First, apologies if you are receiving this the second time - I meant to send it to the broader 'Bulletins' list, but realise I had only included the Ministers in the address field.

Having just attended the Advance Together training in WA a few days ago (Sat 16th), I though I would let you know how it went...

We all know that training events can have varied outcomes: what works for one does not always work for another. While Advance Together has come about following feedback from the CRCA congregations, we may still be wondering what to expect, and whether to attend.

Here in Perth, Advance Together saw about 80 people attend. They came from all walks, represented all types of ministries and age groups: Small Group leaders, youth leaders, children's ministry people, Pastors, pastoral carers, and others who just want to see the church do good ministry.

Murray Capill (Principal, RTC Geelong) started the day with a powerful sermon, encouraging and challenging us to a scriptural understanding of discipleship. It's fair to say that most were challenged by the message, and they left with a deeper appreciation for Matthew 18 and what it says about following Jesus.

There were also workshop/electives on Small Group ministry, Pastoral Care, Mission and Leadership. 
One woman from Gateway who is just starting a new children's ministry. She attended the Leadership elective and found it terrific. 
I attended the Pastoral Care elective, and was impressed with the desire of those in the group to really do pastoral care well, and how the group grappled with the challenges of growing healthy pastoral support systems. 
A young woman who attended the Small Group workshop said the workshop looked at Scriptural priorities for small group ministry, and that she was really encouraged through the discussion. 
A couple attending the Mission elective were challenged to think about how they could change the way they talk with others, and look for better opportunities to share the message about Jesus. 
An older man, whose congregation did not have a strong small group ministry found the discussion particularly helpful.

Over the lunch break, there was a noticeable buzz of conversation. The sense of being a collaborative community seeking to grow into good ministry was palpable.

After lunch, people gathered into congregation specific groups and processed what the morning sessions. The Gateway group felt very positive about the day, with all workshops and all speakers being roundly appreciated. Our people left feeling better equipped for  ministry. Some had connected with others involved in similar ministries in other congregations. Best of all, we had shared group discussion of the needs of our church and had identified a few things we could start doing immediately. We prayed for our church, asking God to deepen our dependence on him as we sought to develop good ministry.

I am not normally someone who loves giving away my Saturday. Life is busy enough. But Advance Together was a great day. Just to see Gateway's ministry people encouraged and feeling more enabled in their task did me good. 

At another level, it was great how RTC, the Ministry Development Coach, the Youth Worker and Children's Worker, along with a local WA-CRCA speaker, had collaborated to deliver some excellent training.

Can I encourage you to get along to your own local Advance Together day? You can find all the details by clicking this link.

Thanks for listening.

Grace and peace,

Dave Groenenboom
Gateway Community Church
A: 63 Spencer Street, Cockburn Central, WA, 6164
P: 0418 383 055
E: dgroenenboom at crca.org.au 
W: www.gatewaycc.com.au



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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar 19 19:08:15 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 06:08:15 +1100
Subject: [Mins] GOSPEL annual report
Message-ID: <mailman.308.1363720138.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi Brothers, 
 
Greetings in our risen Lord's name.
 
Last week we sent the 2012 annual report to all our churches for your
information and prayer. 
We have sent copies for every family/unit at your church. 
They were sent to the church's postal address. 
All being well, someone at your congregation will have access to these
reports. 
 
May  I  ask you to let that person know that the annual reports are for
congregational distribution this Sunday please. 
As always, please don't leave them in a pile in your foyer.
I'm attaching the cover note that was sent along with these newsletters.  
 
Today  I  plan to also send a note to  your bulletin editors about this
material.
Please mention the ministry of GOSPEL in congregational prayer on Good
Friday or Easter Sunday. 
 
Finally, our finances are a bit tight at this time. Could those pastors of
financially supporting churches please check to see if they are up to date
with their payments.
 
Yours with thanks, 

Bert Kuipers - G.O.S.P.E.L.

* 11 Heritage Rise, Riverside, TAS. 7250 Australia

(  +61 (03) 6327 3058          0438 343101

 

 
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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar 19 21:13:02 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:13:02 +1100
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] Please insert this note in the newsletter this
	Sunday
Message-ID: <mailman.320.1363737559.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

G.O.S.P.E.L. News.
Today you will receive our 2012 annual report directly from our mission
field. It contains a lot of information about the ministry of GOSPEL and
matters for prayer. Right now  we are supporting 40 men in full time church
planting. They are supervising and teaching 3,000 believers who congregate
in 2 regions (6 clusters) at 60 formal places of worship
Our director is ready to appoint 10 more gifted men to engage in Church
planting in 2 more clusters in a new area, but we have held him back until
we have more supporters. We would love to hear from you if you would like to
share financially in this harvesting ministry. Email:  gospel at crca.org.au
for the GOSPEL committee, Bert Kuipers.
 
  _____  

 
 
 
 
 

Bert Kuipers - G.O.S.P.E.L.

* 11 Heritage Rise, Riverside, TAS. 7250 Australia

(  +61 (03) 6327 3058          0438 343101

 

 
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From mins at crca.org.au  Tue Mar 19 23:28:27 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:28:27 +0800
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] FW: Wheatbelt Christian Fellowship - Book of
	Revelation	series
Message-ID: <mailman.321.1363737559.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

 

From: Geoff van Schie [mailto:gvschie at ozemail.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013 7:07 AM
To: 'Geoff van Schie'
Subject: Wheatbelt Christian Fellowship - Book of Revelation series

 

Hello everyone,

 

By request, I recently uploaded to the WCF website an entire set of sermons
(PDF outlines and MP3 recordings) of a series on the book of Revelation
covering every chapter of the book. For those not following on Facebook or
Twitter, here is the information for this series.

 

The MPs are between 11mb and 16mb in size.

These are offered free of charge in an effort to promote the Gospel. This
series was recorded in CRC Perth between 2002 and 2003.

 

Just select this link:

 

http://wheatbeltchristianfellowship.org/Sermon%20Recordings/Sermon%20Pages/R
evelation/Revelation%20Series/Revelation%20series%20-%20The%20Church%20Victo
rious%20in%20Christ%20while%20Threatened%20with%20Destruction.htm

 

See Summary below.

 

We give thanks to the Lord for the success of our website ministry with
150-200 downloads of material per month, mostly sermon materials. Already
this month there has been 322 downloads of which 187 are sermon materials.

 

Blessings in Christ

Geoff van Schie

 

Theme of Series: 
The church facing total destruction under persecution from Satanic and
worldly powers, is called to lift it's eyes and see Christ, triumphant over
all His enemies and all powerful for the Church.

"When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right
hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am
the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I
hold the keys of death and Hades." (Revelation 1:17-18) 


In Christ, the Church has nothing to fear for He watches over His bride and
will crush her enemies.
"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose
rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His
eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name
written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe
dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were
following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and
clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the
nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress
of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he
has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords." (Revelation
19:11-16) 


At God's appointed time, Christ will return victorious to take the Church,
His bride, to be with Him forever. 

"Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing
waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting: "Hallelujah! For our Lord
God Almighty reigns. Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the
wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine
linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear." (Fine linen stands for the
righteous acts of the saints.)" (Revelation 19:6-8) 

 

 

 

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From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:51:21 -0500
Subject: [Mins] Would you like to know what I KNOW?
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From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:54:20 +0000
Subject: [Mins] RTC Monthly No. 63 - March 2013
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No. 63 - 20 March 2013


College News

?  Each year it takes a few weeks for our student numbers to settle. We now have 47 people enrolled in RTC courses, and another 20-30 taking courses through Sola. Of the 47 RTC students, 19 are full-time and 34 are studying on campus. Nearly half the students are enrolled at M.Div level. We are thankful to God for the students he has given us and pray that their time at the RTC will equip them in a great way for their future service of God.





Faculty News

?  Murray Capill has just been in WA for the weekend, participating in the Advance Together conference. This is a collaborative project of the CRCA Ministry Development Coach, and the Youth and Children's workers, along with the RTC. The one day event was a great opportunity to encourage and strengthen churches in their disciple making ministries. The conference will also be run in Victoria on 27 April, Queensland on 18 May, and NSW on 15 June. For more info, go to: http://www.rtc.vic.edu.au/Calendar/Events/Advance-Together

?  Dr Phillip Scheepers will be in New Zealand shortly to speak at the Hamilton Easter Convention. He will present five addresses on the theme of Seeking the Glory of God Among the Nations. For details see: http://www.rtc.edu.au/Resources/News/New-Zealand-visit


Book Recommendation
(by Dr Phillip Scheepers)

Strangers Next Door: Immigration, Migration and Mission by J. D. Payne (IVP, 2012, 206 pages).

As Christians we are called to have a vision as wide as the world. With this work J. D. Payne effectively reminds us that 'the world' can sometimes be right on our doorsteps. Payne uses the first part of his book to place immigration and migration in kingdom perspective before going on to discuss the history of migration and the way in which it has changed western societies over the past few decades. He also analyses the characteristics of different types of 'people on the move' (e.g. refugees and students). The most valuable part of the book, in my opinion, is where he brings all of this data together in order to formulate some guidelines and strategies for reaching 'strangers' next door. In the process he encourages individuals and congregations to ask some searching questions about how they can be more effective in cross-cultural witness. This is not only a matter of local importance. Payne constantly cites examples of how effective Christian witness in the West has had significant positive outcomes in the countries of origin of a variety of migrant groups. Cross-cultural witness to migrants could therefore be viewed as an integral part of the global mission of the church. I highly recommend this book to church leaders and individuals who are keen to think through the implications of being Christ's witnesses in our multi-cultural society.


Visit of Dr Michael Goheen

[Description: Description: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR95Dh_X1ERCcsfWIkQXpmqt0AfjhIVCH8WG8dzQGYVyjcJmUyb]Michael Goheen is the new professor of missiology at Calvin Theological Seminary in Grand Rapids. For seven years prior to this he held the Geneva Chair of Worldview Studies at Trinity Western University and also taught missions at Regent College.

Michael will be visiting Australia in May to address the pastors and church leaders of the Christian Reformed Churches of Australia. Before that he will visit Victoria to speak on the importance of a Christian Worldview for the Christian's life in society. He will be speaking in Melbourne on the evening of May 1st, and at the RTC at midday on May 2nd. If you are nearby you are warmly invited to attend.

Michael has written two significant works on mission: A Light to the Nations: The Missional Church in the Biblical Story (Baker, 2010) and As the Father Has Sent Me, I am Sending You: J.E. Lesslie Newbigin's Missionary Ecclesiology (Zoetermeer, 2000). He has also co-authored three books touching on Christian worldview with Dr Craig Bartholomew. These are:  Drama of Scripture: Finding Our Place in the Biblical Story (Baker, 2004), Living at the Crossroads: An Introduction to Christian Worldview (Baker, 2008), and The True Story of the Whole World: Finding Your Place in the Biblical Drama (Faith Alive, 2009).

We are pleased that Michael has agreed to speak to us on this area of his expertise. For further information consult the RTC website at www.rtc.edu.au<http://www.rtc.edu.au>


Dr Scheepers' Trip to India

[cid:image006.jpg at 01CE2562.5EEC4BD0]Towards the end of last year I had the opportunity to be involved in a conference for church planters from the Indian state of Tamil Nadu. These church planters work in very difficult circumstances and most of them have very little training. A local Presbyterian missionary organises week-long conferences to give them some much needed time away from the demands of ministry and to provide them with training. I spoke on Apologetics, Ministry to Muslims and Theology of Mission. It was a great joy to see the enthusiasm of these brothers for the work to which they have been called and to hear their stories of how the Lord is growing his church in India. After the conference I also spent some time at the 'Grace and Truth' Bible College near Tambaram south of Chennai (Madras). My lectures there focussed on the same topics that I dealt with at the conference and it was wonderful to interact with a group of very keen students on these issues. I was also impressed to see that the college has many students from other Indian states and even from other countries in the region (Nepal, Burma and Myanmar).

I am very thankful to have had this opportunity to serve the Indian church and would like to urge all of you to pray for God's people there as they seek to serve Him in the midst of a society where preaching the uniqueness of Christ is perceived as deeply counter-cultural.



Ministry Spot
(by Dr Murray Capill)

Last Month, in writing about the place of discipline in the Christian life, I observed that while godliness requires discipline, discipline does not automatically lead to godliness. It only leads to godliness when our discipline is focused on bringing us into relationship with Jesus Christ. Discipline is needed to place ourselves in the current of God's grace and foster fellowship with Christ. And it is that alone which leads to our growth in grace.

Relationship, of course, is always cultivated by communication. To build relationship with another person we need to spend time with them, talking and listening to each other. Similarly, to build relationship with God we need time talking and listening to him. That is why prayer and Bible reading surface as the two most foundational spiritual disciplines.

We must be careful, however, to think of these two disciplines relationally not mechanically. When I think mechanically, I say to myself, 'I should do my Bible reading; I should spend more time in prayer.' It's a duty, a responsibility, maybe even a chore. But when I think relationally my whole perspective changes: 'I want to spend some time with God. There is so much I need to talk to him about, and I need to hear him speaking to me, giving me renewed perspective on life.'

It is, of course, an enormous privilege to spend time with the eternal God. It is one of the foremost blessings of the gospel that we, with our all sin, messiness and confusion, can come to God and call him 'Dad', relating to him personally. Because of the work of Christ we come to him just as we are, not needing to formulate perfect prayers, but simply talking to him in the most real terms about where we are at, our sins and struggles, the things we sense we need, the concerns that burden us, the people and situations we care about, and the good things we are thankful for.

Prayer is designed for ordinary, messy people, who get distracted while praying and put together confused prayers that jump all over the place. If relationship with God was easy and natural we wouldn't have needed a mediator like Jesus, or the interceding groans of the Holy Spirit, or the commands of Scripture urging us to prayer, or the simple model of prayer given by Jesus. The Bible gives us every encouragement and opportunity to come to God with all our 'stuff' and ask for his help.

I was helped in thinking about this by some addresses on prayer I heard at the beginning of the year, given by Dr Gary Millar, Principal of the Queensland Theological College (they can be found here: http://www.taschristianconvention.org.au/talks/). In a seminar session he spoke of two questions that are a great way to begin time with God each day. First, ask yourself, 'How am I going?' Reflect on where you are at in life and with God. Write a paragraph answering that question, being very honest before God. Then talk to him about the realities of your life. Second, ask, 'What is God saying to me in his Word?' Read a passage of the Bible and allow God to speak to you. Then write down what you understand his Word to be saying. That will most likely prompt further prayer. The simple practice of writing a few sentences each day about how you are going, and a few sentences about what God is saying to you in his Word, is a powerful tool for cultivating relationship with God.

For those of us in ministry there is a danger that whenever we turn to God's Word we find a message for other people. We see a sermon, a bible study, an article. But we will not grow spiritually if we are not hearing God speak to our own hearts. We need to read the Bible to ponder what God is saying to us. We need to hear him challenge us, teach us, encourage us, reprimand us. And we want something to stick, so that as we continue our day, biblical truth is on our mind. That's why distilling a truth and writing it down is helpful.

Around the disciplines of prayer and Bible reading there are other disciplines that God's Word commends: meditation, fasting, Scripture memorisation, in-depth Bible study, and so on. The Bible gives few rules concerning how to do these things so we are free to experiment with what helps us grow in our relationship with God. What works for one person may not work for another. You don't have to have a morning devotion; you don't have to close your eyes to pray; you don't have to spend a set amount of time with God. But you do have to develop some disciplines, otherwise your relationship with God will not develop.

Once we have formed some useful disciplines we begin, perhaps not immediately but over time, to experience the enormous blessings of walking with God each day. Relationship with him has a way of re-ordering our messy minds, putting things in perspective, taking the focus off us, lifting from us some burdens, renewing our hope, refreshing our more godly resolves, cleansing our souls from the filth of sin, and spurring us on to godly living. By myself I cannot grow in godliness, but by spending regular, intentional time with the holy God I come under the powerful influence of his renewing grace. The discipline of 15, 30 or 60 minutes with God proves to be the most rewarding time investment of the day. The measure of our devotional life is whether it has turned from being something I should do to something I want to do.

But significant as cultivating personal relationship with God is, it is not sufficient for a healthy spiritual life. We are designed to know God in community, so next time we will consider the place of corporate spiritual disciplines.

________________________________
Reformed Theological College
125 Pigdons Rd, Waurn Ponds, 3216
Ph. 5244 2955, email:  admin at rtc.vic.edu.au<mailto:admin at rtc.vic.edu.au>
________________________________

Please forward this email newsletter to others who may be interested in it. If you want to be added to or removed from the mailing list, please send a brief note to admin at rtc.vic.edu.au<mailto:admin at rtc.vic.edu.au>



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From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:18:48 +0000
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] [SPAM] RTC Annual General Meeting 2013
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REFORMED THEOLOGICAL COLLEGE - PRESS NOTICE

It would be appreciated if the following notice could be inserted into church notices/bulletins over the coming weeks.



Notice is hereby given that the Board of Directors of the Reformed Theological College has scheduled the Annual General Meeting of the RTC to be held on Friday 19 April 2013 at 7.30pm at the College, 125 Pigdons Road, Waurn Ponds, Geelong, Victoria.


Thank you


Simon Edwards
General Manager

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:54:20 +0000
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] RTC Monthly No. 63 - March 2013
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No. 63 - 20 March 2013


College News

?  Each year it takes a few weeks for our student numbers to settle. We now have 47 people enrolled in RTC courses, and another 20-30 taking courses through Sola. Of the 47 RTC students, 19 are full-time and 34 are studying on campus. Nearly half the students are enrolled at M.Div level. We are thankful to God for the students he has given us and pray that their time at the RTC will equip them in a great way for their future service of God.





Faculty News

?  Murray Capill has just been in WA for the weekend, participating in the Advance Together conference. This is a collaborative project of the CRCA Ministry Development Coach, and the Youth and Children's workers, along with the RTC. The one day event was a great opportunity to encourage and strengthen churches in their disciple making ministries. The conference will also be run in Victoria on 27 April, Queensland on 18 May, and NSW on 15 June. For more info, go to: http://www.rtc.vic.edu.au/Calendar/Events/Advance-Together

?  Dr Phillip Scheepers will be in New Zealand shortly to speak at the Hamilton Easter Convention. He will present five addresses on the theme of Seeking the Glory of God Among the Nations. For details see: http://www.rtc.edu.au/Resources/News/New-Zealand-visit


Book Recommendation
(by Dr Phillip Scheepers)

Strangers Next Door: Immigration, Migration and Mission by J. D. Payne (IVP, 2012, 206 pages).

As Christians we are called to have a vision as wide as the world. With this work J. D. Payne effectively reminds us that 'the world' can sometimes be right on our doorsteps. Payne uses the first part of his book to place immigration and migration in kingdom perspective before going on to discuss the history of migration and the way in which it has changed western societies over the past few decades. He also analyses the characteristics of different types of 'people on the move' (e.g. refugees and students). The most valuable part of the book, in my opinion, is where he brings all of this data together in order to formulate some guidelines and strategies for reaching 'strangers' next door. In the process he encourages individuals and congregations to ask some searching questions about how they can be more effective in cross-cultural witness. This is not only a matter of local importance. Payne constantly cites examples of how effective Christian witness in the West has had significant positive outcomes in the countries of origin of a variety of migrant groups. Cross-cultural witness to migrants could therefore be viewed as an integral part of the global mission of the church. I highly recommend this book to church leaders and individuals who are keen to think through the implications of being Christ's witnesses in our multi-cultural society.


Visit of Dr Michael Goheen

[Description: Description: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR95Dh_X1ERCcsfWIkQXpmqt0AfjhIVCH8WG8dzQGYVyjcJmUyb]Michael Goheen is the new professor of missiology at Calvin Theological Seminary in Grand Rapids. For seven years prior to this he held the Geneva Chair of Worldview Studies at Trinity Western University and also taught missions at Regent College.

Michael will be visiting Australia in May to address the pastors and church leaders of the Christian Reformed Churches of Australia. Before that he will visit Victoria to speak on the importance of a Christian Worldview for the Christian's life in society. He will be speaking in Melbourne on the evening of May 1st, and at the RTC at midday on May 2nd. If you are nearby you are warmly invited to attend.

Michael has written two significant works on mission: A Light to the Nations: The Missional Church in the Biblical Story (Baker, 2010) and As the Father Has Sent Me, I am Sending You: J.E. Lesslie Newbigin's Missionary Ecclesiology (Zoetermeer, 2000). He has also co-authored three books touching on Christian worldview with Dr Craig Bartholomew. These are:  Drama of Scripture: Finding Our Place in the Biblical Story (Baker, 2004), Living at the Crossroads: An Introduction to Christian Worldview (Baker, 2008), and The True Story of the Whole World: Finding Your Place in the Biblical Drama (Faith Alive, 2009).

We are pleased that Michael has agreed to speak to us on this area of his expertise. For further information consult the RTC website at www.rtc.edu.au<http://www.rtc.edu.au>


Dr Scheepers' Trip to India

[cid:image006.jpg at 01CE2562.5EEC4BD0]Towards the end of last year I had the opportunity to be involved in a conference for church planters from the Indian state of Tamil Nadu. These church planters work in very difficult circumstances and most of them have very little training. A local Presbyterian missionary organises week-long conferences to give them some much needed time away from the demands of ministry and to provide them with training. I spoke on Apologetics, Ministry to Muslims and Theology of Mission. It was a great joy to see the enthusiasm of these brothers for the work to which they have been called and to hear their stories of how the Lord is growing his church in India. After the conference I also spent some time at the 'Grace and Truth' Bible College near Tambaram south of Chennai (Madras). My lectures there focussed on the same topics that I dealt with at the conference and it was wonderful to interact with a group of very keen students on these issues. I was also impressed to see that the college has many students from other Indian states and even from other countries in the region (Nepal, Burma and Myanmar).

I am very thankful to have had this opportunity to serve the Indian church and would like to urge all of you to pray for God's people there as they seek to serve Him in the midst of a society where preaching the uniqueness of Christ is perceived as deeply counter-cultural.



Ministry Spot
(by Dr Murray Capill)

Last Month, in writing about the place of discipline in the Christian life, I observed that while godliness requires discipline, discipline does not automatically lead to godliness. It only leads to godliness when our discipline is focused on bringing us into relationship with Jesus Christ. Discipline is needed to place ourselves in the current of God's grace and foster fellowship with Christ. And it is that alone which leads to our growth in grace.

Relationship, of course, is always cultivated by communication. To build relationship with another person we need to spend time with them, talking and listening to each other. Similarly, to build relationship with God we need time talking and listening to him. That is why prayer and Bible reading surface as the two most foundational spiritual disciplines.

We must be careful, however, to think of these two disciplines relationally not mechanically. When I think mechanically, I say to myself, 'I should do my Bible reading; I should spend more time in prayer.' It's a duty, a responsibility, maybe even a chore. But when I think relationally my whole perspective changes: 'I want to spend some time with God. There is so much I need to talk to him about, and I need to hear him speaking to me, giving me renewed perspective on life.'

It is, of course, an enormous privilege to spend time with the eternal God. It is one of the foremost blessings of the gospel that we, with our all sin, messiness and confusion, can come to God and call him 'Dad', relating to him personally. Because of the work of Christ we come to him just as we are, not needing to formulate perfect prayers, but simply talking to him in the most real terms about where we are at, our sins and struggles, the things we sense we need, the concerns that burden us, the people and situations we care about, and the good things we are thankful for.

Prayer is designed for ordinary, messy people, who get distracted while praying and put together confused prayers that jump all over the place. If relationship with God was easy and natural we wouldn't have needed a mediator like Jesus, or the interceding groans of the Holy Spirit, or the commands of Scripture urging us to prayer, or the simple model of prayer given by Jesus. The Bible gives us every encouragement and opportunity to come to God with all our 'stuff' and ask for his help.

I was helped in thinking about this by some addresses on prayer I heard at the beginning of the year, given by Dr Gary Millar, Principal of the Queensland Theological College (they can be found here: http://www.taschristianconvention.org.au/talks/). In a seminar session he spoke of two questions that are a great way to begin time with God each day. First, ask yourself, 'How am I going?' Reflect on where you are at in life and with God. Write a paragraph answering that question, being very honest before God. Then talk to him about the realities of your life. Second, ask, 'What is God saying to me in his Word?' Read a passage of the Bible and allow God to speak to you. Then write down what you understand his Word to be saying. That will most likely prompt further prayer. The simple practice of writing a few sentences each day about how you are going, and a few sentences about what God is saying to you in his Word, is a powerful tool for cultivating relationship with God.

For those of us in ministry there is a danger that whenever we turn to God's Word we find a message for other people. We see a sermon, a bible study, an article. But we will not grow spiritually if we are not hearing God speak to our own hearts. We need to read the Bible to ponder what God is saying to us. We need to hear him challenge us, teach us, encourage us, reprimand us. And we want something to stick, so that as we continue our day, biblical truth is on our mind. That's why distilling a truth and writing it down is helpful.

Around the disciplines of prayer and Bible reading there are other disciplines that God's Word commends: meditation, fasting, Scripture memorisation, in-depth Bible study, and so on. The Bible gives few rules concerning how to do these things so we are free to experiment with what helps us grow in our relationship with God. What works for one person may not work for another. You don't have to have a morning devotion; you don't have to close your eyes to pray; you don't have to spend a set amount of time with God. But you do have to develop some disciplines, otherwise your relationship with God will not develop.

Once we have formed some useful disciplines we begin, perhaps not immediately but over time, to experience the enormous blessings of walking with God each day. Relationship with him has a way of re-ordering our messy minds, putting things in perspective, taking the focus off us, lifting from us some burdens, renewing our hope, refreshing our more godly resolves, cleansing our souls from the filth of sin, and spurring us on to godly living. By myself I cannot grow in godliness, but by spending regular, intentional time with the holy God I come under the powerful influence of his renewing grace. The discipline of 15, 30 or 60 minutes with God proves to be the most rewarding time investment of the day. The measure of our devotional life is whether it has turned from being something I should do to something I want to do.

But significant as cultivating personal relationship with God is, it is not sufficient for a healthy spiritual life. We are designed to know God in community, so next time we will consider the place of corporate spiritual disciplines.

________________________________
Reformed Theological College
125 Pigdons Rd, Waurn Ponds, 3216
Ph. 5244 2955, email:  admin at rtc.vic.edu.au<mailto:admin at rtc.vic.edu.au>
________________________________

Please forward this email newsletter to others who may be interested in it. If you want to be added to or removed from the mailing list, please send a brief note to admin at rtc.vic.edu.au<mailto:admin at rtc.vic.edu.au>



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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 20 04:05:55 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:05:55 +1000
Subject: [Mins] Calling all churches to prayer!
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Dear partners in the gospel,

 


  A

s you know Synod affirmed the work of the Church Planting Taskforce (CPT),
and made provision for the ongoing funding of church planting across the
denomination by setting aside a prescribed offering for the work.   In a
separate communication from the CPT all churches will be asked to hold this
offering on Pentecost Sunday, 26 May 2013, when we remember that Christ sent
his Spirit into the world to enliven the mission and build His church.
This is an appropriate Sunday to focus on the work of church planting and
the missional task God has given to the church.    

 

            Giving sacrificially for the work of church planting is
important, but a greater task is the task of prayer.  For this reason the
"Fourfold Task" adopted by Synod 2006 begins with prayer.  As churches we
are urged:

"To call upon God for such an outpouring of his Spirit that his people will
be assured of his love through his Word, seek to please the Saviour in all
things, manifest the godly life and be filled with prayerful and sacrificial
compassion for the lost in all the world."

 

            Prayer changes things.  If we believe this, then we had better
be praying that God will change the eternal destiny of our neighbours and
country.  In the seven weeks after Easter Sunday leading up to Pentecost,
church and individuals are encouraged to pray for the work of the Gospel in
Australia and beyond.   To assist individuals and churches to focus their
prayers in the days leading up to Pentecost, a "Prayer Calendar" has been
put together beginning with Easter Monday and ending on Pentecost.  The
prayer items highlight the work of the gospel throughout Australia and
beyond. 

 

            There are several ways you use this prayer calendar:




           Duplicate the entire calendar (.PDF format attached) monthly
newsletters, include it in your bulletin on Easter Sunday, 7 April, and/or
post it on your website;

           Include the prayers for the week in your weekend services.

           Print the prayers for the week (.doc and PDF format attached) in
your weekly bulletin and/or post it on your website, encouraging people to
pray daily.

           Give a copy of the prayer calendar to your prayer teams and/or
pray through each item at the meeting of sessions and/or elders.

           


  I

magine your church, filled with God's Spirit, being of one mind and one body
as it brings its life into line with God's great purpose of restoring the
world under the lordship of Christ. Imagine every one of your church's
members fully committed to seeing God's purposes become a reality.   May God
hear our prayers, may his Kingdom come, and may each one of us and our
churches be filled with a sacrificial compassion for the lost in all the
world.



Prayerfully yours in Christ,                                             

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:  mtc at crca.org.au

www.ministryformation.com.au <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> 

 

 

 

 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 20 04:43:47 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:43:47 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Mins] Change of address
Message-ID: <mailman.358.1363754630.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Colleagues, please note we have moved..

Don and Ruth Baird
17 Mildred Street
Warrawee NSW 2074

Tel:  9440 2858

Thanks.



From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 20 04:51:02 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:51:02 +1100
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] Please insert this note in the newsletter
	this Sunday
In-Reply-To: <mailman.320.1363737559.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.320.1363737559.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.362.1363755064.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi All,

Thank you for the information regarding the GOSPEL ministry in India.

Our deacons are seeking some clarification and they have asked me to write
a brief email asking for some further clarification.

Our Good Friday offering (as well as our Christmas Day offering) are always
for "empty hands" (WD&R), specifically filling the hands of those who can
assist those who are in need of food, clothing and shelter etc.   However,
we haven't received any information about that side of the WD&R work.

We did receive all the information about GOSPEL and the need for extra
funding so that there can be an increase in Church Planting in India.  Is
this now part of the 'developing' strategy of the WD&R?   We also see that
this Church Planting work in India be a focus of our prayers on Good Friday
and Easter Sunday.

So the question is whether our WD&R offering on Good Friday (and Christmas
Day) has now become a "Church Planting" offering rather than filling the
hands of those who can assist those who are in need of food, clothing and
shelter etc.

If you could give us some further clarity on this matter, I am sure that
our deacons will appreciate it and will be able to give a more informed
recommendation to our members.

Blessings on your ongoing work.


John Z.





On Wednesday, March 20, 2013, wrote:

> **
>  *G.O.S.P.E.L. News.*
> Today you will receive our 2012 annual report directly from our mission
> field. It contains a lot of information about the ministry of GOSPEL and matters
> for prayer. Right now  we are supporting 40 men in full time church
> planting. They are supervising and teaching 3,000 believers who congregate
> in 2 regions (6 clusters) at 60 formal places of worship
> Our director is ready to appoint 10 more gifted men to engage in Church
> planting in 2 more clusters in a new area, but we have held him back until
> we have more supporters. We would love to hear from you if you would like
> to share financially in this harvesting ministry. Email:
> gospel at crca.org.au <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'gospel at crca.org.au');> for
> the GOSPEL committee, Bert Kuipers.
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Bert Kuipers - G.O.S.P.E.L.*
>
> **
>
> ** 11 Heritage Rise, Riverside, TAS. 7250 Australia*
>
> ***(  +61 (03) 6327 3058          0438 343101*
>
> **
>
>


-- 
John & Trudy Zuidema
19 Heather St,
Wheeler Heights.
NSW, 2097
Australia
(http://jtzuidy.blogspot.com.au)
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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 20 05:54:11 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:54:11 +1000
Subject: [Mins] Recharge 2013 -- 75% of registrations are in!
Message-ID: <mailman.363.1363758865.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Dear colleagues in ministry,

 

There is still time to reserve your "hotel room" for the upcoming Recharge
CRCA Ministry Conference - 06-09 May 2013.   There are also spots for any of
you who are planning to come on your own!   Have you registered yet?   There
is still time to take advantage of the early bird price which will be in
effect until 15 April.   Hotel rooms will be available on a first come first
serve basis.   Registration forms and conference details are attached.
Early bird price is $270 pp for twin share or $220 pp four share.
Transportation is provided from Sydney Domestic Airport.  A deposit will
secure your rooms.  Send in all rego forms to
<mailto:recharge2013 at crca.org.au> recharge2013 at crca.org.au or post it to the
address on the rego forms.

 

Perhaps you know of a colleague or a couple who is considering attending,
but they have not yet registered.    This is a good time to encourage one
another.   It would be great to have every room spoken for!

 

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Jack De Vries

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:   <mailto:mtc at crca.org.au> mtc at crca.org.au

 <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> www.ministryformation.com.au

 


_______________________________________________
Mins mailing list
Mins at crca.org.au
http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au

 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 20 07:03:56 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:03:56 +1100
Subject: [Mins] two hats.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.362.1363755064.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.320.1363737559.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.362.1363755064.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.369.1363763033.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

*Dear John,

As you know, I wear two denominational hats.
One is WD&R.
The other is called G.O.S.P.E.L.

When I sent today's email, I was clearly wearing the GOSPEL hat.
GOSPEL is and remains an "opt in" indigenous church planting work in 
Central Western India.
Synod has endorsed this work much like SIW, Bethesda etc.
The GOSPEL committee wants to make this ministry to be well known and 
since we are part of GROW, we feel very comfortable to ask for prayer in 
the CRCA.

At Christmas and Easter time the churches are asked to give an offering 
for WD&R.
Annually churches give 3 offerings to WD&R. This is not an "opt in" 
ministry of our denomination.
It is not a church planting work at all. It is clearly diaconal.
We always covet your prayers for the needs in this hurting world.

I do hope these point help to clarify any misunderstanding.
Let me say again that there is no developing Church planting strategy of 
WD&R.
The mandate and work of WD&R is clearly development and relief in Asia 
and Pacific.

God bless you and the work of your church and the ministry of mercy.

Yours in Christ,

Bert Kuipers.

*
On 20/03/2013 3:51 PM, mins at crca.org.au wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Thank you for the information regarding the GOSPEL ministry in India.
>
> Our deacons are seeking some clarification and they have asked me to 
> write a brief email asking for some further clarification.
>
> Our Good Friday offering (as well as our Christmas Day offering) are 
> always for "empty hands" (WD&R), specifically filling the hands of 
> those who can assist those who are in need of food, clothing and 
> shelter etc.   However, we haven't received any information about that 
> side of the WD&R work.
>
> We did receive all the information about GOSPEL and the need for extra 
> funding so that there can be an increase in Church Planting in India. 
>  Is this now part of the 'developing' strategy of the WD&R?   We also 
> see that this Church Planting work in India be a focus of our prayers 
> on Good Friday and Easter Sunday.
>
> So the question is whether our WD&R offering on Good Friday (and 
> Christmas Day) has now become a "Church Planting" offering rather than 
> filling the hands of those who can assist those who are in need of 
> food, clothing and shelter etc.
>
> If you could give us some further clarity on this matter, I am sure 
> that our deacons will appreciate it and will be able to give a more 
> informed recommendation to our members.
>
> Blessings on your ongoing work.
>
>
> John Z.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2013, wrote:
>
>     *G.O.S.P.E.L. News.*
>     Today you will receive our 2012 annual reportdirectly from our
>     mission field. It contains a lot of informationabout the ministry
>     of GOSPEL and matters for prayer.Right now we are supporting 40
>     men in full time church planting. They are supervising and
>     teaching 3,000 believers who congregate in 2 regions (6 clusters)
>     at 60 formal places of worship
>     Our director is ready to appoint 10 more gifted men to engage in
>     Church planting in 2 more clusters in a new area, but we have held
>     him back until we have more supporters. We would love to hear from
>     you if you would like to share financially in this harvesting
>     ministry. Email: gospel at crca.org.au <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>     'gospel at crca.org.au');> for the GOSPEL committee, Bert Kuipers.
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *Bert Kuipers- G.O.S.P.E.L.*
>
>     *//*
>
>     /******11 Heritage Rise, Riverside, TAS. 7250 Australia*/
>
>     /**//(*+61 (03) 6327 3058          0438 343101*/
>
>     **
>
>
>
> -- 
> John & Trudy Zuidema
> 19 Heather St,
> Wheeler Heights.
> NSW, 2097
> Australia
> (http://jtzuidy.blogspot.com.au)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mins mailing list
> Mins at crca.org.au
> To manage subscription settings - http://crca.org.au/mailman/listinfo/mins_crca.org.au


-- 
Bert Kuipers   11 Heritage Rise, Riverside, TAS. 7250.
Phone 03 6327 3058      Mob.    0438 343101

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From mins at crca.org.au  Thu Mar 21 00:53:15 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:53:15 +1000
Subject: [Mins] Calling all churches to prayer!   UPDATE AND CORRECTION
Message-ID: <mailman.381.1363827222.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Sorry for this second email, but thanks to good eyes (thanks Josh!) I set up
the calendar incorrect for this year.   These are the updated and corrected
files.  Thanks.

 

From: Jack De Vries [mailto:ministryformation at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013 2:06 PM
To: mins at crca.org.au; 'bulletins at crca.org.au'
Subject: Calling all churches to prayer!

 



 

Dear partners in the gospel,

 


  A

s you know Synod affirmed the work of the Church Planting Taskforce (CPT),
and made provision for the ongoing funding of church planting across the
denomination by setting aside a prescribed offering for the work.   In a
separate communication from the CPT all churches will be asked to hold this
offering on Pentecost Sunday, 26 May 2013, when we remember that Christ sent
his Spirit into the world to enliven the mission and build His church.
This is an appropriate Sunday to focus on the work of church planting and
the missional task God has given to the church.    

 

            Giving sacrificially for the work of church planting is
important, but a greater task is the task of prayer.  For this reason the
"Fourfold Task" adopted by Synod 2006 begins with prayer.  As churches we
are urged:

"To call upon God for such an outpouring of his Spirit that his people will
be assured of his love through his Word, seek to please the Saviour in all
things, manifest the godly life and be filled with prayerful and sacrificial
compassion for the lost in all the world."

 

            Prayer changes things.  If we believe this, then we had better
be praying that God will change the eternal destiny of our neighbours and
country.  In the seven weeks after Easter Sunday leading up to Pentecost,
church and individuals are encouraged to pray for the work of the Gospel in
Australia and beyond.   To assist individuals and churches to focus their
prayers in the days leading up to Pentecost, a "Prayer Calendar" has been
put together beginning with Easter Monday and ending on Pentecost.  The
prayer items highlight the work of the gospel throughout Australia and
beyond. 

 

            There are several ways you use this prayer calendar:




           Duplicate the entire calendar (.PDF format attached) monthly
newsletters, include it in your bulletin on Easter Sunday, 7 April, and/or
post it on your website;

           Include the prayers for the week in your weekend services.

           Print the prayers for the week (.doc and PDF format attached) in
your weekly bulletin and/or post it on your website, encouraging people to
pray daily.

           Give a copy of the prayer calendar to your prayer teams and/or
pray through each item at the meeting of sessions and/or elders.

           


  I

magine your church, filled with God's Spirit, being of one mind and one body
as it brings its life into line with God's great purpose of restoring the
world under the lordship of Christ. Imagine every one of your church's
members fully committed to seeing God's purposes become a reality.   May God
hear our prayers, may his Kingdom come, and may each one of us and our
churches be filled with a sacrificial compassion for the lost in all the
world.



Prayerfully yours in Christ,                                             

 

 

Jack De Vries

Ministry Development Coach

Christian Reformed Churches of Australia

49 Hunter Circuit

Petrie, QLD 4502

P:   07 3285 3678

M:  0437 339 008

E:  mtc at crca.org.au

www.ministryformation.com.au <http://www.ministryformation.com.au/> 

 

 

 

 

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From mins at crca.org.au  Wed Mar 20 14:20:24 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:20:24 +0800
Subject: [Mins] Question about Nomination of Office Bearers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.290.1363579443.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
References: <mailman.282.1363576477.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
	<mailman.290.1363579443.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>
Message-ID: <mailman.388.1363828049.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

Hi Jack,

 

I don't often get time to read all those emails, but now that the election
is behind me I have a bit more time!

 

I think it is important to realise that members of the congregation actually
can not "nominate" a person for eldership.  Only the session can do that.
Members of the congregation can only suggest names to the session of people
they believe are suitable to serve as elders /deacons, and then the session
can chose to nominate them or not.

 

Before formally nominating a person (i.e announcing their name to the
congregation) the person being considered for nomination is visited by their
section elder or the minister to talk about what is involved, and whether
there are any things which the session might not be aware of, which would
preclude the person from serving as an elder/deacon. 

Sometimes, congregation members suggest names of people who may think that
they are suitable for nomination, but the session may be aware of things
which would make it wrong or unwise, and therefore not pursue the
suggestion.    The reason may be one that the session would deem
inappropriate to share with the person who suggested the name.  

 

If the ordinary member of the congregation approaches a person, wanting to
nominate them for elder, many a suitable person would be too modest and say
no.  But if the elder or pastor approaches a person and informs them that
the whole session is of the view that they have the necessary gifting and
maturity etc, then the "call" would be much stronger, and not so easily
declined.

 

I think the method that I have outlined above has been widely used in our
churches (certainly in the churches I have served) and has worked well .

Every blessing on your ministry'

 

Peter

 



Rev Peter Abetz MLA

(Associate Pastor)

67 Froudist Circle

Southern River 6110

 

Phone:  Home +61 (0)8 9456 2712

Electorate Office: +61 (0)8 9256 4900

Mobile:  0409 076 155

E-mail:  pabetz at crca.org.au

 

Grace Christian Reformed Church

Current place of worship:

Seveth Day Adventist Church

Wendling Rd

North Beach WA 6020

 

Worship times:  Sundays:  8:30 am & 10.30 am

 

Website:  www.gracecrc.org.au

 

 

 

 

 

From: mins-bounces at crca.org.au [mailto:mins-bounces at crca.org.au] On Behalf
Of mins at crca.org.au
Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 11:36 AM
To: mins at crca.org.au
Subject: Re: [Mins] Question about Nomination of Office Bearers

 

Hi Jack,

It just so happens that we have just gone through the nomination process
too, so this is fresh in our memories! We do what you do, as well as the two
suggested amendments. 

The reasoning behind the first point is that it just seems like good manners
for a nominator to get the nominee's consent before their names will be put
before Session and discussed (and possibly dissected!). It also potentially
saves time: there seems no point discussing a nominee at length and
eventually accepting their nomination, only to them have them refuse to
accept it themselves when they are informed of it.

The reasoning behind the second point is that: if the nominee doesn't know
they've been nominated, of course, there's no point in telling them they
were and then rejected. But if they do know they've been nominated, it is
much better that they find out in person from an elder than merely by the
fact that their name isn't on the voting slip. This also provides pastoral
opportunities, i.e. to explain to someone who might think they are
leadership material why they are not, which might have broader impacts in
the church.

Anyway, that's just my two cents' worth!

Cheers,

Des Smith, CRC Kingston
 


On 18/03/13 2:08 PM, "mins at crca.org.au" <mins at crca.org.au> wrote:


Hi Everyone,
 
In Launceston Session we have always followed what I thought was fairly
standard procedure when it comes to nominating office bearers, that is we
call for nominations from the congregation, we receive some names in reply,
we add some extra names of our own, we consider them carefully and
prayerfully, we come up with a list of candidates and then we announce this
to the congregation. It has recently been suggested that we do a couple of
things differently, namely:
 
1) That it should be specified that nominators should always gain permission
from the person they wish to nominate before putting their name forward to
Session.
2) That if someone is nominated and Session decide not to put them up for
election, that Session should go back to the nominator and the nominee and
explain why their nomination was rejected.
 
We are wondering if anyone has any experience, thoughts or wisdom for us on
this matter?
 
Yours in Christ, Jack Kapinga.
       

  _____  

_______________________________________________
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Mins at crca.org.au
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From mins at crca.org.au  Mon Mar 25 00:16:34 2013
From: mins at crca.org.au (mins at crca.org.au)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:16:34 +1100
Subject: [Mins] [Bulletins] What We Believe curriculum - 50%OFF!!
Message-ID: <mailman.413.1364253331.12129.mins_crca.org.au@crca.org.au>

You can currently receive

50% off

your purchase of the What We Believe
<http://www.resources.crca.org.au/c/4231063/1/what-we-believe.html>  Student
Guides and Leader's Guides by Lew Vander Meer!!

 

This popular high school course covers key aspects of the Reformed faith and
worldview in an easy-to-lead format.

Based on the Belgic Confession, each session features a classic
twenty-minute video lesson by pastor and teacher Lew Vander Meer.

After watching the video segment (DVD sold separately), students use this
session guide to review, discuss, and apply the teachings to their lives.

The leader's guides provide helpful backgrounds and offer options and tips
for leading student activities.

This course will help teens

-      make or renew a commitment to Christ as their personal Saviour and
Lord. 

-      understand the structure and distinctiveness of Reformed doctrine. 

-      acquire and use a basic "faith vocabulary" common to the Reformed
tradition.

-      see a clear connection between doctrine and life.

-      respond positively to the teachings of the church.

 

HURRY!! Stocks are limited!

 

All prices have been updated on our website
<http://www.resources.crca.org.au/> .

 

Valid until 30/6/2012 or until stocks run out.

Discount not available on DVDs.

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